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Substance Use Research That Makes a Difference: Meet Dr. Ken Winters

I’m pleased to share my fascinating interview with Dr. Ken Winters, Director of the Center for Adolescent Substance Abuse Research (CASAR), regarding his recent trial with teens and their parents/caregivers.

This important new study demonstrates the effectiveness of brief interventions with adolescents to reduce their problem drug or alcohol use. Adding parent involvement in the intervention increased the positive results.

Please briefly tell us a little about yourself, and why did you become interested in Adolescent Substance Abuse Research?

I started out just being a generic clinical psychologist interested in applied research and fortunately I got appointed to a project that needed someone to help develop new assessment tools for identifying and referring teenagers who might have a problem with drugs.

Thus I did not have any grand scheme to be an addiction researcher. But it was a good time for someone to get involved in the general field of adolescent drug abuse research. It was the 1980’s and one could tell the whole area of drug abuse research was growing. It was a bull market in terms of federal dollars, interest by foundations, and a large growing group of colleagues that were developing skills in this area as well.

I was mentored by several senior colleagues who were also studying drug abuse. They helped shape my career. It was a small pond when I started out; now it is an interesting diverse, rich field, and there is a wide range of outstanding people that bring a lot of expertise to the table.

I was glad to jump into this field in its infancy. There was not a lot of rigorous science for adolescent clinical populations. Rather, most research work at that time was focused on prevention.  People hadn’t been looking as much at clinical populations and the needs of teenagers already meeting dependence criteria.

 

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Can you explain motivational interviewing and cognitive behavioral therapy?

Motivational interviewing is really a style of interacting with a person with a kindler, gentler approach that seeks to more easily engage to discuss personal problems and seeks to convince the person to commit to behavior change. The individual is also encouraged to examine ways that they might want to change those habits.

With clinical populations, usually, we’re talking about bad habits, like drug use, risky behaviors, or poor health behaviors, but you can use it in any situation when you want to try and convince another person to look at something in a different way. You are using an interviewing or discourse style that is supposed to promote this kind of attitude, of self-examination and interest in change. And then you try and get the person to talk about how they might make those changes.

Cognitive-behavioral therapy is related, but it’s more about teaching specific skills that are aimed at the changes being sought by the individual. One of these changes would be related to how you think about your problems or think about solutions to your problems.

Often that means getting the client to be more positive, to more proactively think about real solutions as opposed to dwelling or pontificating about how bad their life might be. The counselor also works to get the client to make real behavioral changes in their life that promote health.

Cognitive-behavioral therapy has been around a long time but it has more recently been introduced to deal with addictions. The blending of motivational interviewing and cognitive behavioral therapy is also relatively new, but it is quite popular now.

One of the projects we have is that we are trying to teach parents about these two skills. We’re doing a brief intervention study where we are teaching parents to deliver these skills to their teenagers in the home. We think these skills are very teachable to a motivated parent.

What were some of the important findings from your trial that you conducted with the 315 adolescent and parent/caregiver pairs?

We found that a brief intervention that consists of two or three sessions had reasonable engagement by teens. Perhaps when teenagers realized there were only going to be a few sessions, they didn’t feel concerned or shy away or feel like it was too onerous to commit to a large scale endeavor.

We were pretty successful in getting a lot of families to sign up. We found that when we could work with both the teenager and the parent, we got slightly better results compared to when only the teenager was counseled. Although we still got some modest effects when just the counselor worked with the teenager.

Several other researchers have also found that it does help if the parents are involved. It can help both with changing the parent’s behavior in the home, which can promote the teenager getting better and getting healthier, but we also found it may have opened up the eyes of the parents that may be more help is needed with that teenager.  Thus many parents realized they should get some more services from my local community to keep the counseling process going.  And perhaps parents realized that even though their son or daughter is a teenager, they still can exert some impact as a parent.

Was there anything that surprised you in the results?

Two things.

The pleasant surprise was a lot of teenagers enjoyed the opportunity to have time with a counselor.  Many wanted more sessions even though the study only allowed two with the individual. That was a nice pleasant surprise and probably speaks to the good job our counselors were doing. Perhaps when teenagers are offered a motivational interviewing type approach where a lot of the counseling effort is to engage the teenager and where the counselor is more acting like a coach or a mentor, interest by the teenager to self explore and to talk about his problems and possible solutions is promoted.

Perhaps another surprise was that a certain percent of teenagers were interested in participating but they didn’t want their parents to know about their participation, or they didn’t want their parents to have the parent session. They might have been concerned that too much of the teenager’s private life would get disclosed in the parent’s session.

How can parents use your research findings to help their children avoid or reduce drug or alcohol use?

The Partnership For Drug-Free Kids is going to help us take our current manual that is just in written form and develop it into an easily usable web-based program.

Downstream, the vision is to have something that is very engaging and relatively easy to use by parents. Hopefully, we will have some support features to it if parents have questions or they want to go through a learning phase. We’re hopeful that it can move from our current version, which uses trainers and coaches and move it more towards a self-administered version.

Even short of that, just the basic message that when a teenager thinks that there is at least one parent in the home that they can share a personal problem with or talk to regarding a personal problem is helpful. When teenagers know that their parents would be disappointed if they went over the top with alcohol or other drug use or were violating family rules about the use of alcohol and other drugs, these are a huge plus in getting teenagers to avoid risky behaviors like drug use.

As you can imagine, parents can do all kinds of things on a daily basis to help promote those two principles, even if they don’t have a program like this.

I always encourage anyone to try and find a very good program or counselor that works with teenagers when the drug problem has progressed to dependence.  Most states have some kind of central state-based agency that has a directory of local addiction treatment programs. And there are national data sets where you can click on a state and see what’s available.

For example, a national listing of adolescent drug treatment programs across America is provided by SAMHSA(call 1-800-662-HELP).

Tell us your thoughts about this new research. How do you think this information could help your family?

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Ken Winters, Ph.D. is a Professor in the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Minnesota, director of the Center for Adolescent Substance Abuse Research, and a Senior Scientist with the Treatment Research Institute, Philadelphia, PA.  He received his B.A. from the University of Minnesota and a Ph.D. in Psychology (Clinical) from the State University of New York at Stony Brook.  His primary research interests are the assessment and treatment of addictions, including adolescent drug abuse and problem gambling.  He is on the editorial board of the Journal of Substance Abuse Treatment and the Journal of Child and Adolescent Substance Abuse and has received numerous research grants from the National Institute of Health and various foundations.  He was the 2008 recipient of the Research to Evidence-Based Practice Award from a national organization on effective treatment for adolescents (JMATE).  Dr. Winters is a frequent publisher, speaker, and trainer, and he is a consultant to many organizations, including the Hazelden Foundation, The Partnership at Drug Free.Org, National Center for Responsible Gaming, and the Mentor Foundation (an international drug abuse prevention organization).


 

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16 thoughts on “Substance Use Research That Makes a Difference: Meet Dr. Ken Winters”

  1. Ken – thanks for sharing your research with us. I had never heard the term ‘motivational interviewing. Combined with short term cognitive therapy it makes perfect sense that your chance of making positive changes in these teenagers lives was significantly increased.

    Cathy -thanks for hosting Ken. I found the research and results interesting and hopeful. Fran

  2. Really interesting article Cathy and Ken. Like Fran, I’d never heard of this therapy before and it sounds like a wonderful way forward to engage teens in moving towards healthy choices for living a happier life.

    As always you have fascinating guests.

    xoxo
    Elle

  3. Cathy – thank you for sharing this. During the training this weekend we were discussing the special needs of teenagers – even the yoga we use to help them heal has a different flavor.

    1. Hi Kyczy,

      Teens do need a different focus. They are at a unique stage in their life and it is important to tailor interventions and therapy to what will be most effective. So glad you are doing yoga with teens. How fun.

  4. Thank you Cathy and Dr. Winters for sharing these research findings with us. Glad to hear that the findings were positive when the family/parents get involved. I am a big believer in that!

    1. Hi Leslie,

      It makes sense to me that substance abuse is a family based problem and therapy for make a difference. I’m glad to know about these techniques and looking forward to them being available to parents.

  5. Thanks for the informative article, Cathy. Interviews can be so informative – as was this one. Motivational Interviewing is strong to be sure. I’ll be looking forward to more of your work in the days ahead…
    Bill

  6. Cathy,

    Thank you for this, “makes good sense” glimpse of good, cutting edge research.

    I was also pleasantly surprised by Dr. Winters’–pleasant surprise…”The pleasant surprise was a lot of teenagers enjoyed the opportunity to have time with a counselor. Many wanted more sessions even though the study only allowed two with the individual.”

    How revealing and refreshing to reinforce how humans at any age, “light up” when engaged in compassionate and effective ways.

    Motivational interviewing rocks and BTW, so do you, Cathy.

    Thank you, Dr. Winters for your good work and thanks, Cathy for bringing this to my attention.

    1. Hi Herby,

      I found it interesting as well that the teenagers enjoyed the opportunity to have time with a counselor. It goes to show that when you carefully consider your approach to teenagers, it can make all the difference. So many teens are struggling and just need the right person to engage them in a way that they will open up and share their feelings. It is nice to know that these types of trials are being conducted. Take care.

  7. Thank you, Cathy and Ken, for this very informative interview. This portion struck me,”Several other researchers have also found that it does help if the parents are involved. It can help both with changing the parent’s behavior in the home, which can promote the teenager getting better and getting healthier, but we also found it may have opened up the eyes of the parents that maybe more help is needed with that teenager.”

    I look forward to The Partnership at Drugfree.org upcoming “easily usable web-based program” to be based on Dr. Winters’ research findings. Helping parents better understand the issues and how to use this research for their own “motivational interviewing” with their teens should be very helpful.

    1. Hi Lisa,

      I agree that the upcoming program through The Partnership at Drugfree.org would be of great help to parents who need resources and information on how to best support their children who are struggling with substance abuse. I’m glad that you found the interview informative. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

  8. Dr. Winters? Thank you for sharing about this study and for your great work throughout your career.

    Thanks, Cathy, for introducing us to another interesting person who’s making things happen! The results of the study are interesting. It’s great to learn that the interviewed teenagers responded so well to the opportunity to speak with a counselor. Perhaps having that time with a counselor dispelled any fear or hesitation they would have otherwise had about counseling. I really like the idea of mentorship-style meetings. That’s something I know the teens in my life would surely respond well to, especially those who are uncomfortable with direct questions about their feelings and tend to hold their emotions inside.

    The Partnership at Drugfree.org just keeps getting better.

    1. Hi Jody,

      Thanks for stopping by. I believe that most teens would respond better to a counselor when they are in a relaxed setting and they are treated in a kind and gentle manner. It is nice to know that these types of studies are going on and that the information will be available to parents.

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